Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

04/25/2007 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 227 UNIFORM MONEY SERVICES ACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 227(L&C) Out of Committee
*+ HB 233 UNCLAIMED PHONE/ELEC COOP DISTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 233(L&C) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 233-UNCLAIMED PHONE/ELEC COOP DISTRIBUTIONS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:04:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  233,  "An  Act relating  to  giving  notice  of                                                               
unclaimed  net   margin  distributions   made  by   electric  and                                                               
telephone cooperatives."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK MILLER,  Staff to Representative  Mike Kelly,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,   read   from   the  sponsor   statement   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  purpose   of  HB   233  addresses   the  sometimes                                                                    
     burdensome  and  ineffective noticing  requirements  of                                                                    
     unclaimed  property law  regarding  capital credits  of                                                                    
     electric  and  telephone  cooperatives.   Electric  and                                                                    
     telephone  cooperatives  from   time  to  time  receive                                                                    
     excess revenue  from members  that exceed  the expenses                                                                    
     of  operations.   The  cooperative  keeps these  excess                                                                    
     revenues  in  a  member-owned  capital  account  called                                                                    
     capital credits, on behalf of the member.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Cooperatives  may  refund   a  portion  of  accumulated                                                                    
     capital  credits, but  in  some  cases the  cooperative                                                                    
     seeking to refund  the capital credits no  longer has a                                                                    
     valid address  for the  member.  As  a result,  many go                                                                    
     unclaimed.    Current  Alaska  unclaimed  property  law                                                                    
     allows the  credits to revert  back to  the cooperative                                                                    
     as long as  the cooperative, at least  six months prior                                                                    
     to the reversion  1) mailed a notice to  the last known                                                                    
     address  of  the  member;  2)  publishes  a  notice  of                                                                    
     proposed  reversion in  the  same  manner required  for                                                                    
     publishing a service of summons  by publication; and 3)                                                                    
     publishes  a notice  of the  unclaimed capital  credits                                                                    
     four times,  during four consecutive calendar  weeks in                                                                    
     a newspaper of local circulation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     While  mailing   to  last  known  address   of  members                                                                    
     sometimes   results  in   finding  members,   newspaper                                                                    
     publication does  not result in a  significant increase                                                                    
     in the number of members  who cash their capital credit                                                                    
     checks,  particularly for  rural  cooperatives.   As  a                                                                    
     result,   cost   of   compliance   with   this   notice                                                                    
     requirement  is significant  and  the effectiveness  is                                                                    
     questionable.   HB 233  allows cooperatives  the option                                                                    
     of   using   the   internet,   instead   of   newspaper                                                                    
     publication,  to   notify  its  members   of  unclaimed                                                                    
     capital credits.   Alaska is the most  "wired" state in                                                                    
     the country  and this bill  allows for  cooperatives to                                                                    
     notify its members using a  method most likely to reach                                                                    
     them.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER stated  that  the bill  is simple  in  nature and  is                                                               
supported by  the Alaska Village Electric  Cooperative, Inc., and                                                               
the Copper Valley Electric Association, Inc.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:07:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  asked  whether  the  list  of  unclaimed                                                               
credits  could  be posted  on  the  internet  site for  6  months                                                               
instead of 30 days.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER  said he  is not  aware of why  the 30-day  period was                                                               
chosen, but indicated it might be possible to "bump that up."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH  asked  if  newspaper  publication  is  more                                                               
effective  in urban  cooperatives and  why this  method does  not                                                               
seem to work for rural cooperatives.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER opined that the  newspapers of general circulation are                                                               
not  reaching the  constituent base  of  the rural  cooperatives.                                                               
However,  he went  on to  say that  because Alaska  is the  "most                                                               
wired" state in the nation, the  internet may be a better vehicle                                                               
for providing notice.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  A.  WILKINSON,  Chief Executive  Officer,  Copper  Valley                                                               
Electric  Association, Inc.,  (CVEA),  explained that  CVEA is  a                                                               
non-profit organization that  serves approximately 3,600 members.                                                               
He explained  that any monies  collected over and above  the cost                                                               
of providing electric services belong  to members and are held in                                                               
accounts  for each  member.   He relayed  that most  cooperatives                                                               
hold  the  excess  money  for  20  years,  which  makes  it  very                                                               
difficult  to locate  the  members.   He  said  that the  state's                                                               
unclaimed property  statute speaks directly to  unclaimed capital                                                               
credits, but  opined that this well-intended  statutory provision                                                               
is  burdensome  and  out-of-date.    Furthermore,  the  statutory                                                               
provisions are expensive  to comply with and  not very effective.                                                               
He said  that HB 233 would  give utilities the option  of posting                                                               
notice of  capital credits  on the  internet.   In response  to a                                                               
prior question  by Representative Gardner, he  explained that the                                                               
30-day period for  posting is likely derived  from existing legal                                                               
notice requirements.  He opined  that posting on the internet has                                                               
a  higher  likelihood  of  being   seen  and  that  CVEA  has  no                                                               
objections to posting for longer than 30 days.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILKINSON  reminded the committee  that internet  posting may                                                               
be  more accessible  as it  is  "always on."   He  said that  the                                                               
CVEA's accounting  department has  already had some  success with                                                               
notifying people  on the  internet if  it does  not have  a valid                                                               
address  for  the  person.     He  said  that  CVEA,  like  other                                                               
cooperatives, uses unclaimed capital  credits to fund scholarship                                                               
programs.  In  the past 15 years, CVEA has  awarded over $100,000                                                               
in scholarships  to graduating  seniors, he  said.   He explained                                                               
that the effectiveness of newspaper  advertising is affected by a                                                               
couple  factors.   First, his  area has  a significant  temporary                                                               
population in the  summer months.  He has done  some research and                                                               
has  discovered  that only  1  in  5  current members  have  been                                                               
members for  over 20  years and  over 50  percent of  the current                                                               
members have  been members  for less  than 10  years.   He opined                                                               
that  these statistics  illustrate why  it is  difficult to  find                                                               
persons  who may  have  excess funds  in  the system,  especially                                                               
after a number of years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical difficulties, there  is no sound recording from                                                               
3:15:26 to 3:20:51; that segment  was reconstructed from Gavel to                                                               
Gavel's recording.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER asked  if he had any  objection to posting                                                               
names on the internet for 180 days.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILKINSON stated CVEA would not have any objection.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JIM ROWE, Director, Alaska  Telephone Association (ATA) explained                                                               
that  ATA has  seven rural  cooperatives as  members.   He stated                                                               
that its members are  in favor of the bill as  it will provide an                                                               
effective means  of communicating with  members.  He  opined that                                                               
urban newspapers are  not read very much in rural  areas, yet the                                                               
internet  is  very active  and  can  be  more relevant  to  local                                                               
issues.  He  stated that he supports the bill  as allowing a more                                                               
effective way to communicate with members.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER asked  if he had any  objection to posting                                                               
notice on the internet for 180 days.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROWE replied that he had no objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN  LELAND, Executive  Director,  Alaska Power  Association,                                                               
(APA),  explained  that  its  members  provide  power  to  almost                                                               
500,000  Alaskans.    She  stated that  APA's  membership  is  in                                                               
support of  HB 233 as  the proposed  changes will provide  a more                                                               
effective way  of locating members  who are owed  capital credits                                                               
and will  save the  utility cooperative  thousands of  dollars in                                                               
advertising  expenses.   She opined  that the  current method  of                                                               
publishing a  long list of names  four times is not  effective as                                                               
many of the persons  no longer live in the area.   In response to                                                               
an  earlier question,  she told  members that  the Department  of                                                               
Revenue  (DOR)  has  been  successfully  using  the  internet  to                                                               
provide notices of unclaimed property.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RICH GAZAWAY, Administrative Law  Judge, Regulatory Commission of                                                               
Alaska (RCA),  responded to  a question by  stating that  the RCA                                                               
does not take a position on this legislation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:22:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER offered Conceptual  Amendment 1 to page 2,                                                               
lines  4-6,  to lengthen  the  time  period  for posting  on  the                                                               
cooperative's Internet  web site a  list of the persons  for whom                                                               
the cooperative has  unclaimed distributions from 30  days to 180                                                               
days.   There  being  no objection,  Conceptual  Amendment 1  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN moved to report  HB 233, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  233(L&C)  was                                                               
reported from committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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